Monday, January 30, 2012

NOM ally goes off the deep end again about 'gay sex'

Patrick Wooden proves that there are some nasty people in the pulpit.

Raleigh NC "diaper pastor" Patrick Wooden is not only refusing to take back his comments about gay men (that they have so much anal sex that they require surgery and diapers and that they use gerbils, baseball bats, and cell phones as sexual instruments), but he seems to be reveling in his notoriety at the expense of looking like a damn fool.

In a recent interview with Michelangelo Signorile,  he gave an expository about gloryholes, fisting, and other things he termed as gay sex. I'm not making any accusations. You draw the conclusions yourself.

In talking about the interview, Signorile was quick to point out that Wooden contradicted himself several times:

Speaking with me on my radio program on Sirius XM OutQ, Wooden, who's been described by some LGBT critics as having an "obsession" with anal sex, went into great detail about gay sexual activity, discussing "glory holes" and "fisting all way up to the armpit." Contradicting himself, he actually defended oral sex and anal sex for heterosexuals -- even though he'd previously said, in speaking about gays, that God "made the human sperm, the God of the Bible designed it, and it was not designed to be emptied into an area that is filled with feces."

The exchange in question is as follows:

Do you believe men and women should have oral sex?

Of course. I believe the Bible says that marriage is honorable in all and the bed is undefiled.

So oral sex is okay? If a woman performs oral sex on a man?

Any sexual activity as long as the two persons as far as I'm concerned are in agreement, are married and they are born of the oppose sex.

But sir, you said said sperm is not meant to go in the anus. It's not meant to go in the mouth -- You said sperm, when it goes in the anus, it's wasted, that is God's seed wasted. When a woman is drinking your sperm, isn't she wasting it?

No, the difference is, they are of the opposite sex.

According to the Bible you're only supposed to be having missionary sex with your wife...Oral sex is considered sodomy.

This pastor is telling you without apology that the Bible allows a husband and a wife to enjoy each other --

Including anal sex? including anal sex?

I guess so, if that's something that they agree to.

But you said that that place is the place for feces.

Well, do you disagree with that?

I don't understand why you're saying that's okay for heterosexuals but not for homosexuals.

Yes, you do. I don’t believe two homosexuals should kiss on the mouth.

But you said that anal sex will lead to death. So why can heterosexuals do it?

No, no. If everyone practiced anal sex it would lead to that. Have you ever heard of any man getting pregnant through anal sex.I believe sexual activity is for persons of the opposite sex.

So even if they're putting objects in, that's fine?

Most men -- I guess my way of thinking is that the object my wife wants in her is me. I can't expound on the sexual proclivities of everyone. But what I am saying and i want to be perfectly clear, and I don't apologize for it, it doesn't make me a bigot. I don't have an unreasonable fear of homosexuals -- I believe marriage is between a man and woman.

Believe it or not, that's probably the tamest part of the interview. If you can stand it, go here to read more of the transcript or hear the audio.

It's almost funny until you remember that the National Organization is using Wooden to garner support for the anti-marriage equality it is trying to pass in May.

If he says these things to Signorile, I can just imagine what he is saying in the pulpit.

Related post:

National Org for Marriage official doesn't want to talk about 'diaper pastor' ally

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'Will religious right rail against opinion they once supported?' and other Monday midday news briefs

New Hampshire Republicans May Lack Votes To Override Governor’s Veto Of Marriage Repeal Bill - New Hampshire may pass a bill repealing marriage equality in the state this week. However Governor John Lynch said that he would veto the bill and its looking like the legislature may not have the votes to override the veto should it come to that. A empty victory for NOM and its allies if it all comes to pass.

Restaurant Refuses To Serve Anti-Gay GOP State Senator Stacey Campbell Because Of His Hateful Agenda - If the religious right tries to make a fuss of this situation, then they would be hypocrites. You see in opposing pro-gay laws in terms of employment and such, they argue that business owners should be allowed to make decisions based upon their "deeply held personal beliefs." And in this case, it may be that a business owner had a "deeply held personal belief" that he/she wouldn't serve homophobes. Not so strange how discrimination springs back against those who would allow its practice.

U.N. Secretary-General Defends LGBT Rights In Africa
- Good for him!

Romney Touts Support Of Pastor Who Sees A Correlation Between Marriage Equality And 9/11 - Nice going, Mittens.

Linda Harvey Demands Parents Fight 'Foolish and Deceptive' Gay Rights - Naturally Harvey doesn't talk about gay parents.

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Homophobic Matt Barber exposes his own hypocrisy . . . on video

Matt Barber
I just love the Liberty Counsel's Matt Barber.

His homophobic animus gives me so much to work with. I personally think that next to Peter LaBarbera and Linda Harvey, Barber is one of the lgbtq's best weapons in exposing the lies of these phony "traditional values groups."

Take for example his speech at LaBarbera's recent flop of a press conference at the headquarters of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Now LaBarbera, Barber, and several attention-starved black pastors in attendance claimed to be making a stand because the SPLC told the truth about several phony "traditional values groups," i.e. they market lies, junk science, and propaganda against the lgbtq community. Barber claimed in the speech below at the press conference that it was "inexplicable" that SPLC was "slandering mainstream Christian organizations" by calling them hate groups simply because they supposedly "embrace the traditional Judeo-Christian sexual ethic."

Of course Barber is lying. SPLC has said that it is the lies and propaganda spread by Barber and company about the lgbtq community which is the problem. You know, like claiming that gays want to advance pedophilia, such as what Barber did in September of last year:

Or implying that same-sex families are reprehensible and unnatural:

Or claiming that same-sex families is propaganda to support sexual anarchy:

Or saying that gay children are inclined to commit suicide because "they know" that being gay is "unnatural and immoral"

And there more videos of Barber attacking the lgbtq community with lies. You could string them together and make a feature film.

The fact of the matter is that when Barber claims that he does not understand why SPLC is labeling some religious right organizations as hate groups, he is lying through his teeth. Barber knows this but apparently he thinks that the lgbtq community is too stupid to youtube his name.

With his stark audacity here, Barber becomes the symbol of religious right hypocrisy - holding a Bible with the hand which they are showing to the public while hiding the other hand used to throw figurative rocks at the lgbtq community behind their backs.

Here is the thing though - slowly but surely people are getting interested in the hand these phony "morality groups" are hiding. People are getting interested in seeing whether or not these groups are worthy to hold the Bible in the hands they are showing to the American public.

The irony is that his group, the Liberty Counsel, was not named as a hate group by SPLC, even though it was called out for its use of  homophobic lies and propaganda. Who knows. Maybe Barber is jealous that the Liberty Counsel didn't achieve full status.

Lastly, here is something else interesting about Barber's speech. He laid out a challenge to Mark Potok, editor of the SPLC’s Intelligence Report to debate the charges, particularly the falsehoods Barber and others of his ilk spread about the lgbtq community. In doing so, he makes a clever distortion. He cited studies allegedly from the Center for Disease Control regarding gay men and STDs. Barber's point was that religious right groups aren't doing anything wrong  because supposedly they are merely citing credible scientific information to claim that homosexuality is a dangerous lifestyle.

But the CDC has never said that homosexuality is a dangerous lifestyle. The CDC has never used their studies to vilify and dehumanize the gay community. Generally when the CDC cites studies regarding gays and STDs, the organization also points to outside factors, such as homophobia, racism, and poverty as fueling these problems in the gay community. The following is what the CDC said when it comes to HIV/AIDS amongst gay men:
Stigma and homophobia may have a profound impact on the lives of MSM, especially their mental and sexual health. Internalized homophobia may impact men’s ability to make healthy choices, including decisions around sex and substance use. Stigma and homophobia may limit the willingness of MSM to access HIV prevention and care, isolate them from family and community support, and create cultural barriers that inhibit integration into social networks.

Racism, poverty, and lack of access to health care are barriers to HIV prevention services, particularly for MSM from racial or ethnic minority communities. A recent CDC study found a strong link between socioeconomic status and HIV among MSM: prevalence increased as education and income decreased, and awareness of HIV status was higher among MSM with greater education and income

When Barber, LaBarbera, and the rest of that crowd cite CDC studies, they deliberately omit or downplay information such as this.

Therein lies the difference and the deception. The CDC puts out information to combat health problems in the lgbtq community. Barber, LaBarbera and company puts out information to exploit health problems in the lgbtq community.

But I am interested in seeing the debate between Potok and Barber. Personally I think Barber was just showing bravado and in reality, he doesn't have the guts to answer for his lies. Time will tell and I intend to be there to let folks know if and when Barber wimps out.

Related posts:

If Matt Barber hates gay sex so much, then why does he keep talking about it? 

Religious right having gay sex fantasies even during Obama's SOTU address

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